@stephtwang: Not sure if I follow. Is it that good/performant Computer Systems will have killed
the puzzle aspects in programming, and that it remains a puzzle is a sign we're
screwing up? I also sense that, computers aren't well oiled enough to remove the
value in a challenge is a good thing
@stephtwang my interpretation is something like: shenzhen i/o is fun/challenging/funny because you're solving trivial tasks using inadequate representations (e.g. asm). For work that "actually matters", better strategy may be to seek better representations rather than cope with puzzle-solving
@stephtwang at least, hutchins is claiming that the cognitive evolution of culture proceeds in this way (by re-encoding tasks in better representations rather than continuing to puzzle through them). Evolution is a slow gradual process, of course.
@nagle5000: from later in the email, do you know what "Tom Paine's argument against monarchy and for democracy by using stained glass windows!" refers to?
In his later life, Bob Taylor was once accused of rosy retrospection with regards to the research environment in the 60s and 70s. Bob thought for a couple minutes, and finally declared, "No, god dammit, it *was* a golden age."
At my first job, I remember protesting that a certain fashionable industrial design decision
would look ridiculous in ten years. My boss responded, "We're not selling this product in
ten years. We're selling it now." I learned something about myself that day.
@tophtucker:
Since the timeline can’t show silence, the more everyone “holds their tongue” (speaking only when they really *gotta*), the more extreme the timeline becomes, yielding a cacophony made up entirely of the negative space of restraint
@tophtucker By the way, have you read much along this thread (that I just made up)? I think you might be into it. I'm thinking of Ong in particular (or at least as a starting point).
@byedit: I'm looking for material in (1) psychology, & (2) linguistics that connects to early HCI work (Engelbart theory of augmentation, Kay). e.g. innateness, learning, universality, communication, co-op
(FWIW, after Rich concedes that most data requires "sufficient formatting and metadata" and "some human involvement for interpretation", Alan could have added, "For a scalable (intergalactic) system, that "metadata" must be a *process*, because human involvement doesn't scale.")