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spotted a xerox alto in its natural habitat

@stephtwang: Not sure if I follow. Is it that good/performant Computer Systems will have killed the puzzle aspects in programming, and that it remains a puzzle is a sign we're screwing up? I also sense that, computers aren't well oiled enough to remove the value in a challenge is a good thing
@stephtwang my interpretation is something like: shenzhen i/o is fun/challenging/funny because you're solving trivial tasks using inadequate representations (e.g. asm). For work that "actually matters", better strategy may be to seek better representations rather than cope with puzzle-solving
@stephtwang at least, hutchins is claiming that the cognitive evolution of culture proceeds in this way (by re-encoding tasks in better representations rather than continuing to puzzle through them). Evolution is a slow gradual process, of course.


babbage's analytical engine comes with two bells (archive.org/details/passagesfromlife03char… )

@nagle5000: from later in the email, do you know what "Tom Paine's argument against monarchy and for democracy by using stained glass windows!" refers to?
@nagle5000 it's a common Alan trope, referencing McLuhan (e.g. vpri.org/pdf/future_of_… )

FLEX machine, 1968
Smalltalks, 1971-1979
NoteTaker, 1978
Vivarium, 1986-1993
Playground, 1988-1992
Squeak, 1996-
Etoys, 1997-
Croquet, 2003-2007
STEPS, 2006-2012
CDG/HARC, 2013-2017
Tutor, 2016-

(architecture machine group, ~1976)


No, if that money had needed to come from venture capitalists, the project never would have happened.
In his later life, Bob Taylor was once accused of rosy retrospection with regards to the research environment in the 60s and 70s. Bob thought for a couple minutes, and finally declared, "No, god dammit, it *was* a golden age."

stories and games (from worrydream.com/AlanKaySqueaklandPosts)

understanding engelbart

on documenting dynamicland

Intuition (being able to feel your way around a problem space). People generally refer to an “intuitive interface” as one that can be used immediately on first approach without learning. Not only is that not what I mean by the word “intuition”, it's almost exactly the opposite of what I mean. I mean something like music notation or circuit notation, a representation that is gibberish on first approach, and requires significant learning, but once learned, allows one to see and navigate landscapes that were previously invisible.

James Clerk Maxwell wrote the Encyclopedia Britannica entry for "Diagram". It contains two diagrams.

At my first job, I remember protesting that a certain fashionable industrial design decision would look ridiculous in ten years. My boss responded, "We're not selling this product in ten years. We're selling it now." I learned something about myself that day.


gibbs-mode

@tophtucker: how many dream teams are there on earth? sort of a nice thought!
@tophtucker total number of dreams divided by average size team per dream

@tophtucker: Since the timeline can’t show silence, the more everyone “holds their tongue” (speaking only when they really *gotta*), the more extreme the timeline becomes, yielding a cacophony made up entirely of the negative space of restraint
In person, withholding response can be a powerful response. On Twitter, a silent reaction is invisible. When every utterance is asynchronous and decontextualized, you can't not say something.
@tophtucker By the way, have you read much along this thread (that I just made up)? I think you might be into it. I'm thinking of Ong in particular (or at least as a starting point).

Carver's wonderful whirlwind history of how people learned to move electrons around youtube.com/watch?v=m99YI7…

radiation pressure @dynamicland1
(This was three lines of code. You could have made it yourself.)



@byedit: I'm looking for material in (1) psychology, & (2) linguistics that connects to early HCI work (Engelbart theory of augmentation, Kay). e.g. innateness, learning, universality, communication, co-op
@byedit In Early History of Smalltalk, Kay mentions Piaget, Bruner, Montessori, Dewey, Holt, Suzuki, Arnheim, McLuhan, others. worrydream.com/EarlyHistoryOfSmalltalk

Later: Betty Edwards, Doreen Nelson, Tim Gallwey, Koestler, (even later) Kahneman... (Some pointers here: squeakland.org/resources/books/readingList.jsp)

@pwang: I would like a programming language that lets us talk about data and data transformations.
@pwang This is a interesting exchange between (pro-data) Rich Hickey and (pro-meaning) Alan Kay: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=119416…
(FWIW, after Rich concedes that most data requires "sufficient formatting and metadata" and "some human involvement for interpretation", Alan could have added, "For a scalable (intergalactic) system, that "metadata" must be a *process*, because human involvement doesn't scale.")

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